Boat hard to shift into gear. Prop can be turned freely by hand.
Boat hard to shift into gear I suspected the cable clips popped on the motor end, but was I just test dipped my motor today on my project boat. and you can ear the clutch dog (i think grinding when you put it in to Take the shift control cable and adjust the trunion so it fits perfectly back into the shift bracket. I can see the shift cable move at shift plate assembly when I move from reverse to neutral. Also From reverse to neutral is easy. I took the lower unit off again and shifted into forward, did the samething with the shift shaft. One thing is that generally first gear won't have synchros, so you are actually doing damage, and it may be why it is "hard". If it seems any easier to shift, then your throttle cable may not be adjusted correctly, causing tension in the shift box. We dumped it into the water yesterday and one of the Yamaha's will not go into gear. 7 Bravo 2s. Frequent Failure of the Dog Clutch Gear: Clutch dog failures can be related to transom problems. Jun 30, 2009 Hard Shifting on 4. Now start the engine (on muffs) and shift into forward. Hope this makes things a little clearer,thanks in advance. If the clutch and engine do not properly disengage, the manual transmission will be hard to shift into any gear, or even not be able to shift at all. On the throttle cable assembly at the carb there is two cables one hooks to a lever and at the lever is a lock screw. You can change gears all day long, but it has nothing what-so-ever with going into gear. does it kind of slam into gear when it goes? Mine did that. Over the weekend I put the boat in the water and it seemed that I had to put a lot more effort into getting the unit to engage into forward. The problem seems simple, that maybe the clutch is not fully releasing - so it's keeping the trans components Ever since I've had the bus, getting into first gear has been a bit difficult, but I ended up developing a feel to do it with minimal effort so far. Or, if this might be When you say it's "hard to shift", do you mean that it's physically hard to move the shifter OR that it grinds and won't find a gear?. I think its something in the shifter, but I've never replaced the shift cable. We disconnected the shift cable where the upper and lower cables connect and determined it was something in the lower cable or drive. The drives are hard to get into gear, my wife is very small and can barely get them in and out of gear. The engine just starts to rev at that point, too, making for a hard shift into gear. 0/alpha one gen two out drive. Well, out running a 5. If it is broken then it will need to be replaced. Then, sometimes, it won't go into the Forward gear. They baby this boat, clean head from head to toe after every trip and drop it off at the marina for service and wrapping every October. 7 Carb engine and a Bravo 3 outdrive. Joined May 17, 2007 I looked at the boat today and tried to put it in gear and had no problem to do so. I can use the handle in neutral only and movement is smooth. Do not shift into neutral until the boat has slowed way down to the idle speed. Re: 50 hp honda shift problem Sounds like you probably have it down. I just tried to use WD40 on it and just work it back and forth quite a bit. Has anyone had any issues getting their machine to shift into park. When in forward gear and I want to go to neutral, I have to really yank hard on the shifter multiple times to get it to shift, but I often skip right past neutral and go to reverse. This is a pristine Grady White with twin 200 Yamaha two strokes on the back. It was very hard to move shift mechanism in motor unless i rotated prop. Idle speed would naturally be higher when running on the trailer, so it will shift into gear faster. The gearbox clicks into gear ok but is very, very stiff when trying to select neutral. Another reason could be a crook micro switch or a broken wire on it. Starts right up, but the first time shifting into F or R is very hard, like I'm worried I'm going to break something hard. While someone turns the prop backwards, try to shift into forward. Also inspect the shift cable jacket at the stern drive side down where the cable exits the jacket. or in the LU? Suggestions greatly appreciated. When shifting a Mercruiser, you want to snap it into or out of gear. My problem is that when I shift into forward gear, there is a grinding noise for about a second before it clunks into gear. I purchased the boat from the original owner. The gear shift shaft in the LU turns easy enough when not attached to the engine. took the rear plate off the drive and took the pin out of the shift assembly, it seemed to be able to go into gear fine with no None of them required rocking to shift them into gear. General Q & A - Bravo 1 shifting problems. If it’s still not warm yet and running at higher rpm when shifting into gear it’ll grind down the dog clutch as it engages. The problem is that after hitting a sandbar lightly it will be just a little hard to shift into neutral from forward and a little hard to shift from neutral to reverse. So, first time taking the boat to the lake it started right up and everything seemed fine except for the boat seemed to struggled going into gears at first but after forcibly pushing the controlling stick and playing with the trigger it eventually went into forward but after maybe around 3-4 minutes the My neighbor at the lake has A 1999 Rinker 242 with a 5. I had an '88 1,when i put in gear the engine will stop. Is this a mal-adjusted shift cable or worse. 0 SX that is not going in to forward gear but engages reverse just fine. 3LX Engine stalls when I shift to forward gear. Unfortunately if it won't shift at the shift shaft, it's got problems inside and will need to come apart for repairs. On the next set the shifter became extremely hard to shift into gear. You may have damaged gears that keeping your boat from shifting. Sometimes I have to shift from forward past neutral into As the title says I have a 1995 Cobalt 222 with a DP-D1 drive that shifts into gear really hard. Hi, First time posting here working on a 2000 Suntracker pontoon with a 50 hp 2001 Tracker Outboard. If it won't idle that low, then something is wrong. By numbnuts July 14, 2007 in & shifted the lever manually. The motor and drive have 371 hours. It takes 10 times the effort to shift into reverse. Everything seemed to line up nice, when it was in neutral, prop spins freely. In this episode, we’ll guide you This time it wouldn't shift into forward at all. The gear shifter is hard to put into gear. I have a 1994 Omc 5. You want to increase the movement into forward gear. When I go to shift into first, the shifter won't go in! It's like it goes in half-way and hits a wall and won't get in there. If the shifter is easily removeable, soak the cables where the outer sheath of the cable and the inner shift cable move in and out with WD 40. 5 turns out, idle speed screw at 2 turns. It should not take much pressure to do so. I received a telephone call from my neighbor some hundred miles away explaining how the throttle control, while working, that it was hard to shift into forward and back into neutral. Sometimes it will go right in smoothly and other times I have to use 2 hands and really pull on it to get it into neutral. -----Step #1 would be to drain the gear oil. With the lower unit off of the boat, it shifts equally well into forward and into reverse, but with the lower unit installed, it is extremely stiff (like have to raise up out of the seat and apply body weight to get it into gear). I measured the lower shift cable and it measures 6" like it should. Shifting at engine by hand, seems stiff. Prop can be turned freely by hand. The gear lever on the side of the engine seems stuck despite having removed the cables and trying to move it manually. I'm unsure about reverse, if the condition is similar. if you end up with the lower unit off dont forget the water Re: not going into gear, mercruiser alpha stern drive actually, reverse works, and I can manually get forward to work. The throttle lever also has a lock on it that allows you to have no more than 3000 rpm while in neutral. Maiden voyage. When I go from neutral to foward, shift cable does not move. Seems the throttle and shift cable just needed some adjustment. If the idle speed is to low that will cause your delay in shifting. So I automatically think its a shift cable binding up which is no big deal. Well don’t worry, that’s just how a lot of outboards are. On the hose you can shift into forward to neutral to reverse and vice versa. Re: Transmission having trouble engaging in forward gear Could be nothing more than the shift cable being out of adjustment. if not brown or dark brown or purple you may have outdrive issues. Picked up a 2014 900 browning with around 3k miles. Are you It occurs when the gear shift lever is difficult to move, making it hard to shift gears. Proper shifting Before anything, remember that when shifting into forward or reverse it has to be done in a swift motion and not slow. You want the turn the one on the shift cable, and not on the throttle cable. - I have got a bravo 1 outdrive that was always easy to shift in and out of gear. This problem can occur in both manual and automatic shifting models. Some outboards give the boat a healthy jolt when you shift them into and out of gear. This component ignites Re: Shifting issue, slamming into gear Thanks for all the responses Update: I changed the gear lube and launched last weekend and launched the boat. Remove the plastic cover on the back of the drive and remove the props. After that is done, set the lower unit into forward gear by turning the shift shaft in the front of the lower unit clockwise Guys. Draining the extra ounce or two of gear lube might have helped also, thanks for that suggestion. If the engine is running when you try to shift, then disconnect the cable and shift the engine manually. Take it back to your dealer for some warranty repairs. Went through cable adjustment procedure. View All; Fishing Boat Seats Hello everyone, I have a 2001 Bayliner 3055 twin 5. Engine starts and idles fine on the hard. If it does not shift any differently, then you could have a bent 2000 Crownline with 5. Just make sure you have the right tools and everything is adjusted properly. What part on the engine should I be The Reverse gear is nothing like F nor N. Disconnected shift cable at the drive, and drive shifts easily by hand. Also, first gear is usually very short, and it is more likely you will accidentally overrev the engine if you train yourself to do that. I'm feeling that my shifter cable may be bad, but I wanted to Re: shifting gears very hard on 150hp johnson If the arm on the motor where you hook up the shift cable moves very hard you have some probs in the gear case. The shifter of your boat has come loose or something is off causing it from moving into the forward position. This model has the KBW10 gearbox and I'm having real problems shifting into Neutral after selecting Forward or Reverse. They My 93 LX won't let me shift into any gear from a stop without forcing it (hard) or waiting 2-3 seconds with the clutch in. I think the the kid helping moved the throttle a bit to far to assist with the placement of the shift pin. Since it was new, the shifter sometimes worked hard. I was on a friends boat yesterday. That is idleing WAY too fast!!! You are going to damage the outdrive if you keep shifting at those rpms. Car Specialist. Removed lower unit, hook Hi, I have an '85 Four Winns with a 3. Recently bought a 1989 Bayliner Capri 1750 with Ford OMC 2. 61,756 Satisfied Customers. Makes a big difference! W. If I shift it from the control to reverse before the throttle cable moves at all I still have a bit more extension along the slide plate but the cable has run out of extension. That is a cable adjustment issue that can be addressed at the engine end. Easy repair once you get the gear case off. Too long of cable results in additional It shifts into forward completely and reverse completely but when I'm approaching a dock or the boat trailer, it's hard to find neutral. Re: Volvo hard shifting back to neutral I took her out to the lake today and I'm happy to report that it is shifting into and out of gear good now. The motor/outdrive is a 94' mercruiser 5. When you say it's "hard Remember the ESA lowers engine idle when shifting from in gear (Fwd & rev) to neutral, not when shifting into gear. The boat sat most of its life with little use. I'm pretty sure it used to be smoother though. Then you will know if it was just an adjustment problem. I’ve removed the cables from the motor and it’s shifts smoothly so I’m assuming the cables are fine. I tested out the shifting and it is very hard to get into gear, forward and reverse. Also the shifter still works good in the forward range of shifting, just For example, transmission gears’ hard shock engagement with U-joint when shifting gear box. However, when returning to neutral from either Took the Turbo S out for the first time this weekend and thought that shifting would get better as I rode, but it didn’t help and was very difficult to shift in to any gear with the foot on the brake and stationary. The 1000 sometimes popped hard once throttle was applied, but it was never hard to move the lever into the range I wanted. Finally after what seemed like 2 or 3 minutes I advanced the throttle a small bit maybe toward 1000 RPM and it "clunked into gear. Even if someon had replace the ESA with the newer timer style you are supposed to leave the switch in to help do the cam adjustment but the wires are Check your idle speed with the boat in the water and in forward gear. You know the clunk I’m talking about – it’s not enough to rattle your fillings, but it is significant enough to make you wonder if anything’s wrong with the motor. Almost have to roll it a little to get it to Hard to shift into any gear after the car has sat for a couple of days, the worst is reverse. And the harder you hit It shifts from neutral into forward or neutral into reverse without any problem, but getting it to shift from either forward or reverse into neutral is really hard. As said above, these tractors have straight-cut gears which have to align perfectly to shift into or between gears. Since forward is your primary gear it is designed to rachet against the clutchdog very breifly before engageing. Though there are multiple different types of shift mechanisms within the different types of lower units. In the water today It was stiff shifting back to neutral from forward and as well as from reverse. Have second person spin prop, it should spin freely. It would get stuck in Reverse, and you'd have to hit the shift lever hard with the palm of your hand to get it out. I didn't realize the RPMs were up around 1000 when I was shifting and that was causing the clunking. I can drive boat, but difficult to shift,especially going back into neutral from forward. But, giving it gas is easier than getting it in and out of neutral. Re: Volvo Penta Shifting HARD into gear. I was running down the lake and everything seemed fine. Customer: My boat shifts hard into drive but not into reverse, and the cold idle lever doesn’t seem to do anything, When I shift into gear (drive or reverse) there is a hard knock or jolt, the car runs smooth after but it. We are having a problem with the throttle/shifter. I have a Yamaha 2012 F115 that is hard to shift into forward or reverse after servicing the lower unit (Water pump, oil change). so what i did to get out of that was to cut the cutout wire to stop that. Hard to shift into first gear from a stand still. the one thing that makes the drive hard to put back on is the engine not being aligned with the gimble bearing. Measured cable play at ~1/4”. Tried to shift into reverse w/one hand and movement is stiff and it sticks/stops before going fully into reversestarts to grinduse both hands and jerk the shifter and it goes into gear. The owners and service manuals both caution you that you do not shift into Reverse unless the engine is running or if not running, you are carefully moving the shift lever to R while you are turning the prop by hand to get the cog/slot alignment so that the lever will move Mechanics of Shifting: Shift Lever: The process starts with the shift lever, a control mechanism typically located on the boat’s throttle control or on the outboard motor itself. I have a M-12 Universal 10 hp diesel and an edson pedestal. You can also do this at the OB end of the shift cables. <br /> As for the "hard to get into neutral" issue. I have to pull on the Once in gear, it's still hard to move the throttle lever to accelerate, forward or reverse. since you have already R&R the drive you most likly solved the water leak issue if you reinstalled the drive with a new o-ring kit. Joined Jun 29, 2009 Messages 28. Runs great but hard to find gear, have to move shifter back to neutral and back to reverse sometimes a few times before it will move, seems the same with forward gears. No grinding noise except shifting into reverse, just hard to get into gear. The same for Rev. Years ago grandpa taught me the trick of pushing one of the pedals slightly to get it to slip into gear. Disconnect the cable from the shift In the beginning of the year, we replaced our shift cable, shift shaft , shift lever on our 85' seville mid cabin. Thought it was the master/slave cylinder. I then pull the back cap to check out the inside of the upper. if i try to rev it. I will try adjusting this. The shift linkage probably needed some adjustment on that particular quad. Any help would be appreciated! Was it hard to shift into forward or reverse or hard to shift back into neutral from forward or reverse. Just like cars, boats cannot function properly with bad sparkplugs, so if you shift into gear and the boat refuses to move, this is probably one of the places you ought to check for problems. - Remote shift cable from control to shift arm working properly - Drive unit shift cable appears to be working OK on shift arm - When starting motor, drive is already in reverse. 3 Yup, Minor adjustments can be done with moving the anchor barrel of the lower shift cable. Since the inner cable is fixed between the shift points, the only movement is felt by the cable housing which pushes on the anchor point on the shift bracket. Causes: Lack of I put both cables new and without connecting the throttle linkage they glide super smooth. Before installing it turn the brass trunion 4 complete turns away from the plastic end and reinstall into shift bracket. To slow down, slowly pull back on the handle little by little until the boat drops off-plane and returns to in-gear idle. I had similar problems on a 1996 4. The shifter will move and go into forward and reverse but it is not moving the shift cable. Once I do shift it into reverse, it will return to acting the way it should shifting into forward and reverse with the same ease. if thats the case i recommend replacing the shift rod cover plate, o ring an a new gasket. Please Note. Capn G Cadet. I have twin DF200s with just over 500 hours on them on my boat. Separately I probably need to check the cables The gear shifter is hard to put into gear. Feels pistons are not moved by doing so. Shifter control cable will probably be starting point. Once I connect linkage, it is hard to shift. It would go into gear and the boat ran perfect, but the shifter was extremely hard to move in both directions. When I do get in reverse it’s very difficult to get back into neutral. shifting into gear at high rpm around 1000 + can damage the gears. Many new ones utilize shift-interrupt systems, which solve the Switching gears, literally, we arrive at the gear shift system. I did the obvious and lubed the cables but it did I have a 1981 Rinker 17ft witha Mercruiser 120HP I/O. Gear case will have to come off. If it still shifts hard then there is an engine issuel. slamming into gear). You should never shift slowly from nuetral into gear. thought it may be the control cable coming from the shifter, but i disconnected it from the shifting plate and it seemed to work fine. It won't go into gear unless you start to 1973 Cobalt 16' 165 hp Mercruiser inline 6 Mercruiser Sterndrive S/N Engine 3557135 S/N Sterndrive 3567568 Each year when I put my boat in the water for the first time it typically will not stay running when I shift it into gear. The idea is the same. 3. Reasons and Solutions of Harley Hard to Shift into Neutral 1. this is a real common problem. It was even being a slight Re: 50hp Not shifting into reverse broke a tooth on th throttle shift plate and was able to locate e new onehoefully all is well now and the lower was shifting as it should. Is the problem w/the shifter assy. It consists of 6 rectangular "cogs" and 6 rectangular sockets. but after driving for 30 minutes, no problems shifting into any of the gears. The engine starts and runs good and has no issues shifting into forward or reverse. I am also experiencing hard shifting on one of my engines. Boat shop said my shift cam and follower were worn so I replaced then but still won't fully shift into reverse even with the shift cable at full extension. " "My boat will not shift into g "My boat will not shift into gear. The gears engage nice and smooth. Lower idle rpm to ~ 650-700. Does the shift lever move the shift plate one of the outdrives seem to be really hard to get into gear , forward or reverse, with engine running or shut down. ----Shifting must be done with a quick firm motion. , shift rod/cam assy. Spark Plug Woes: Recognizing and Rectifying Issues. It seems like I have to go a little past neutral from forward to get it to go into neutral. You are invited to join our public Boat Repair Forum to seek assistance from other members. Also remove lower drain plug at outdrive and drain some of the gear lube out and see what color it is. Joined May 17, 2007 Messages 19 When the boat is in the water, it's really hard to shift, particularly when trying to find neutral. If you turn it one way, it will be impossible to shift out of nutral, the other way will make it easy to shift out of N. That was our attack but it appears fine. 1st and 2nd are the worst. Re: Engine shifts into gear, hard to shift out of gear In the diagram Don posted the purple wire feeds the dist the required voltage through the Shift Cutout Switch (SCS). No odd noise or feel. Anyway, barring a miracle, I'll be dropping the boat off at my favorite mechanics' place next week. Re: Mercruiser won't go into forward gear! I checked to make sure the that the shift shaft is moving correctly and it is. Reverse is immediate and seems normal. Took it to the lake to set the carb and test. Although small, your boat’s spark plug plays an indispensable role in ensuring your engine runs smoothly. However, if I shift it at the lower unit, I cannot tell a difference in shifting it into forward or reverse Install short shift cable back onto shift bracket at this time. I noticed Disconnect the throttle connection at the engine. Reverse does not engage, the prop still spins freely. This is not a mechan Boating ; Boating ; Mercury Gear-shift Problems Mercury Gear-shift Problems. good luck. The SCS id normally closed. Although it had no problems shifting into reverse. Push it forward or back and it shifts, continue pushing and it accelerates. I have no problems with reverse--it goes straight into gear. Shift cable is misaligned. Hey guys I have an 86 mercury 50 hp that sometimes will be hard to shift into reverse. Will it go into forward more easily than reverse? Into reverse more easily than into forward? Or, is it equally difficult to select either gear? I'd say they're equal. Possible cause: Shift remote control push-pull cables of incorrect lengths resulting in too sharp of bends and/or excessive drag. W. Prop seems OK, not spun, Cables seem OK. Pull your drive and adjust the cable to the directions in the Hastings guide. If it's shifting hard when running, it could be an issue with the reverse lockout latch. The port side is hard to get into gear, especially reverse. Bravo 2 hard shifting The shifter lever is very difficult to move back in fourth unless you turn the prop and then it goes into gear smoothly. It seems like it's happening at random. I stopped to talked to a friend in another boat. It shifts hard into gear. And my engine rpms are more like 800-900 when at idle. Works every time. Thanks for the help. It chews up the dogs on the gears. First thing to check is the shift cable. No sound, no familiar bump or anything. I drove into town this afternoon and The throttle has to be all the way in the idle position for the boat to be able to shift to forward. so, get that It has Nothing to do with shifting Into gear C. I have read some discussion boards that say adjusting the lower shift cable It is a plastic black dial that i turned to makie it longer or shorter. This video shows how to perform a cheap fix for a Volvo Penta 3. In any event, if the idle speed is low, there is going to be a delay when trying to shift into gear. It also creates problems in the propeller key and key-way shaft. if too high it makes it hard to shift. . engine is running But wouldn't that effect shifting into forward as well? If the distance between neutral and reverse was less slightly less than 1 1/4", what would the symptoms be? Everything I read on hard shifting having to do with the shift cable install seems to suggest hard shifting in both directions, while my issue is only in reverse. The same happens when trying to go from reverse to neutral. Still very difficult to shift into first gear from a stop. Based on the size of the gear case. The outdrive is bolted to the pivot but not torqued yet. On a side note, I just had a After cruising for about 1 1/2 hours, we were running close to full out across the bay, and the boat dropped a little power, then dropped out of gear - like the prop suddenly stopped turning - and the engine revved. I find that once again its really hard to shift by hand. An aside, my vessel with twin sx/lx150txry. Lower cable is right on 6” centers. baddad1. When I shift into reverse the control does not seem to go back as far as it should, and I don't hear that satisfying clunk, though the gears do engage. We dropped the lower unit again and tried to shift it in gear manually with a pair of pliers and it's doing the same thing. This will help the clutch dog mesh with either gear easerier. It did the same thing it was doing late last season (ie. The First thing to suspect is the Shift cable. I get the thing home and start to inspect finding that after I remove the drive from the boat the shift cable seems fine. One thing that's interesting is that it seems to shift from neutral into gear much easier than shifting into neutral from in gear. Outboard engines are designed for a quick snap from nuetral into gear. Ensure the smooth With the engine running, shifting into forward and reverse works perfectly. there is nothiing holding the clutch cone or anything from going IN gear. Taking two gears that are attached to the prop shaft, and then taking another gear See more The shifter is hard to get into and out of gear. (I have timed it) Also- sometimes it feels like one of the props engages forward gear several seconds before the other one "joins in" I have a 1989 Yamaha 200ETXF. Gear shifting problems are among the most common reasons why your boat might stall when put into gear. Seamed to actually be a little better stationery without the foot on the brake. Engine Stalls When Shifting into Gear. Just installed my 1989 Cobra outdrive on a OMC 5. Forward does Eventually, as the boat speeds up the bow will drop down and the boat will "plane-off" and ride fast on top of the water. During the year, it would shift into gear when the throttle shifter was down about 1/4 ways Re: Engine dies when put into gear Just a quick word on gearshifting. Just stays in reverse. Re: Mercruiser outdrive will not shift into gear I just put my boat in the shop with this issue. See Also: 6 Symptoms of a Once the lower unit is off, put the boats shift linkage into forward gear by pushing the shifter lever all the way forward. That's why I ask him about when it was hard to shift. A boat transmission is a lot like an automatic transmission for a car, not enough fluid, and it won’t shift. C. The lever on the engine should snap into gear smartly. When the shift lever is moved all the way forward or back the drive does not go into neutral or forward. We pulled it back into neutral, but couldn't get the boat back into gear - either forward or reverse. What happens is, when this locking lever is engaged and you do not know about it's purpose, you'll push hard trying to get into gear and If you're 570, 900 or 1000 Ranger is hard to shift, even with the engine off, this may be your problem. I have a 2003 Mercury 115 EFI outboard (s/n OT577928) that I have a hard time shifting into neutral. holes, idle mixture screw set to 1. The resistance from trying to shift out of gear puts strain on the inner cable. Hey guys, I've got a 60hp 2001 mercury that is bloody hard to shift into both forward and reverse, it was like that when we got the boat. MarineEngine. One of the common reasons why your motorcycle is hard to shift into neutral is the incorrect adjustment of the clutch plate. 0L Mercruiser Alpha One. Anyway Don, keep up the good work, you are a legend However, when you try to shift out of forward it is hard to get back into neutral when the engine is running. 3l. If the lower unit still When attempting to shift into forward or reverse, there is no change in RPM or anything that indicates that the outdrive is engaged. A mechanic with a three week wait period to get the motor into his shop says that it is not normal. I wasn't quite sure what was going on and I definitely cranked on the shift cable to jam it into the reverse gear, putting probably 5x amount of pressure normally required to shift. Re: Wont shift into neutral while running To add to the above, if you pull the shift hard enough it will go straight into reverse and not stop the engine but if you pull slowly it will stop the engine. You may also visit the Boat Motor Manuals section of our site to obtain a service manual. All was ok before storage. I called the Yamaha headquarters complaint department and was told the situation was normal. For the first time, I experienced tremendous resistance with my 703 Remote control box. The interrupt switch works by pressure feed back thru the lower shift cable housing. It’s always been stiff a little stiff going into reverse but it’s now almost impossible to shift into reverse. you will probably find that it is stuck due to water getting into the shift cavity. I have shifted by hand at the engine with no Also, the engine really needs to be running to shift the OB in and out of gear. Once it finally goes into gear, either F or R, its easy to shift after that. Owners have reported that shifting in the forward gear, the transom usually jumps It should shift OK from Fwd to Neutral, but the way the 'dogs' are cut on the reverse gear and reverse-gear side of the shift clutch, the parts need to be turning in order to line up properly. com does not offer troubleshooting assistance or repair advice by email or by telephone. Move the shift linkage forward to shift into forward gear. Clutch Plate isn’t Adjusted. The Shift cable is the gear cable that runs from the alpha leg through the gimble housing and terminates on a shift interrupt switch bracket, usually mounted somewhere on the engine (rocker cover or exhaust riser). It was very hard to move throttle from and My wife's '14 RTV-X1100C is about 9 months old. Disconnect the shift cable at the motor, (with the motor OFF) manually shift into Forward, Neutral, Reverse (while turning the prop with your foot) making sure that the unit shifts fully into each gear. If it stays engaged when in gear it will cause stalling and If you remove the short cable (one from shift bracket to outdrive) WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING try to shift in and out of gear, forward and reverse. The shifter always moved freely so its not like the shift cable was rusted and broken. We fixed that and now the velvet drive shifts in and out of forward and reverse as quietly as it ever did. Unrelated to the violent shift episode, the boat wasn't idling down into the 600 to 700 RPM range because of problems in the distributor. On jumping into gear, you might not have gotten the shift shaft splines quite The shifting problems in the boat gears have become a common issue. I've taken the control arms off the linkages in the powerhead to see if it was the cables running to the engine but they shift smooth. Shifts out of park just fine, shifts through the gears fine. I am thinking that this is probably due to a faulty/worn out shift The boat shifts into reverse as quickly as you can move move the shifter. On my later model engines the manual calls for 675 +/- 50 rpms with the boat in the water, free to move, in F gear. Go lower than that and you could see other problems like a cooling problem, or stalling when you come down to an idle or shifting into gear. 0L. Shifting while moving is also hard and requires a very deliberate yank into 2nd sometimes, but not as bad as when stopped. There is no tie to ground. Take the shift control cable and adjust the trunion so it fits perfectly back into the shift bracket. Anyhow. (the one that stops you starting it in gear) 2,then. It is much worse after I have driven for 20 mins or so. The throttle on this control box started sticking in and the control just was not working as smooth as it should. Something need adjusting? Thanks in advance. As long as you have found neutral and shifting well and little metal Re: OMC Shifter-Hard to shift into neutral It never resets to the center because the prop isn't turning to allow the clutch dog to engage the gear. Will test tomorrow to be sure. Shifting slowly WILL destroy the gearbox and place unneccesary load on the engine during the shift. Some engines make more noise than Hi, we've got an issue with one engine not shifting into gear after winter storage. The shift lever allows the operator to select different Re: Bravo 3 hard shifting All the things that Merc was doing for the shifting, was for getting it OUT of gear. I have disconnected the shift cable at the control box and the control box lever shifts into fwd position and back into neutral smoothly as would be expected. Fogged cylinders before storage. 3 mercruiser. When i would move pro either direction it would shift into gear smoothly and with ease. If you pop the throttle and then move it seems to find it easier. If your Can Am and Kawie require rocking to shift, then something is wrong with them. Customer: everytime i put the boat into gear it grinds into gear and locks instead of smoothly going into gear what has to be adjusted for a smooth gear lock. Any ideas? Re: merc 150 grinds when putting in gear First off, check your cable adjustment. And it does get better over time as the gears wear in a little bit. When the SCS activates it breaks the supply voltage causing the engine to "stumble" allowing the dog clutches to disengage. It seems a little “notchy” when I come out of a gear and put it into park. Have someone turn the prop a little while you watch the shift lever and it should center out when the clutch dog engages. Physically hard. This will probably be a short term fix and cables will have to be When shifting into gear there is a clunk and a grinding sound The reverse gear is worse that the forward shift. Believe me it does happen. I unhooked the cable from the contol and manually moved the shift shaft and it locks like it should in forward and reverse gear. Took the back off the shifter and the mechanism for Hi All! After a great day out with the motor, I pulled in as usual to dock @ idle in forward; shifted to neutral - then tried to shift into reverse to stop the boat to park it. Control still had some stick to it, but not as much. Everything seems okay. Shifting into FORWARD gear though is a whole different story. However, it doesn’t get addressed as often. Jun 29, 2009 It is nice having a boat shifting out of gear like it should smooth. I've Sometimes at a dead-stop, I'll put the car in neutral. 0l fl with the sx outdrive. can you do it? If it is Whether you’re facing difficulties with shifting into gear, experiencing clunking sounds, or encountering other shifting-related problems, this guide will empower you to diagnose the issue and get back to enjoying My boat shifts from neutral into gear on its own - unattended. Before installing it, turn the brass trunion 4 complete turns away from the plastic end and reinstall into shift bracket. With any Dog Clutch drive, a shift into gear, or more importantly from gear back into neutral, must be made with When in neutral going to forward it doesn't seem to shift into gear good and your actually giving it throttle before its sucked into gear. Re: boat won't shift into reverse It's absolutely not the shift interrupter. It shifts normal at the helm with the cable disconnected at the engine and shifts normal without LU attached. I'm feeling that my shifter cable may be bad, but I wanted to The reverse became incredibly hard to shift into, and it would die immediately (due to shift interrupt). 7L OMC cobra today and while at about 3000 rpm and 35mph heard a whirring, by the time I started slowing down the boat kicked into neutral. So, the users face difficulty in finding solutions. 2 questions: 1. I have found that it will go into forward with no problem, but it will be difficult to shift into reverse. With the engine off and the shifter engaged in forward or reverse, I Alpha 1 Gen 2 Mercruiser 4. wayne22 Cadet. Can't even take out of gear. I have to kill the engine to get the control out of reverse and back into neutral. Since then, we have had such a hard time adjusting the shift cable. My local shop suggested it was the remote control box, so had it replaced, but still the same problem. The momentary switch that vr5200 mentioned cuts the engine for just a beat allowing the gears to mate. 0 with zero hours on newly rebuilt carb. -----If the propshaft locks up there may be serious issues in the gearcase. Make sure the shift mechanism goes all the way into gear, both forward and reverse. Again, the motor/tranny worked perfect in forward and reverse; it was only the shifter that was stiff. Feels like it is trying to shift but no power. A couple of times it passed straight through neutral to reverse. A mechanic friend of mine suggested removing one of the 2 springs in the shift detent ball. This problem is definitely with the shift lever which is located on the side of the gearbox and is operated by a Morse 33c cable. " The rest of the way into the dock and maneuvering to the trailer it shifted perfectly, forward and reverse. when i run the engine the drive unit will shift into gear but very hard to get back out. This could have become hard and brittle, which will make it tough to change gears. If the gear lever does not slot surely into a gear and feels rubbery then it’s a problem with the bushes at the bottom of the gear lever. When unhooking shift linkage from engine, shifting feels normal at helm , throttle action normal. It should idle nicely at 650 to 750 in fwd gear (In the water). Also, shifting into gear has more of a clunk than I remember, but I can't compare since this is my first boat. Maybe that's too high. Lately, when I am shifting into neutral from either forward or reverse, the shifter seems to have a hard time "finding" neutral. I was wondering if there is supposed to be a micro-switch or something to reduce the idle while shifting into gear to reduce the "clunk" feel/noise. It stalls out when shifting into either gear and was sometimes harder to shift I think moreso into reverse and both were intermitant. It sucks because usual hiccups revolve around engine power. Most likely the orings in the shift rod housing are swelled up from corrosion. Motor runs great while running does not slip out of gear or does not have any other symptoms (no sounds, Nothing). I think I have the cables properly adjusted, but could there be some issues with shifting rods (corrosion/bushings)?? 5 year old F70 with only 110 hours, basic shifter, 17' windshield boat. 3L Mercruiser Gen+ Alpha Update: Boat working great. this is where it is hard to move, it goes into gear & runs OK it just takes a lot of effort as if it is sprung to tightly or something like that. also if water When you shift into either gear the cam hits the switch at then end of the shift stroke, once the switch is activated it effectively kills the ESA circuit so that it can't activate while in gear. Now put shift control handle in the neutral position. 2006 Mercruiser 5. Shifting a boat into gear may seem simple, but improper technique can lead to costly damage to your engine or transmission. If your control cable is fine and adjusted properly, I recomend you drain the oil in the lower unit and inspect it. I was told that the Re: Bravo III Hard to shift remove the back cover on the upper drive again and look at the detent ball for the shift mechanism. Make sure when you start up the engine (every time) you give it time to warm up in neutral, let the engine idle down after a few minutes (you’ll notice the rpms drop down), then shift smoothly into gear. Back Boat Seats. What part on the engine should I be looking at to solve the problem. Because the clutch plate You must not ease an outboard into gear. If I adjust upper cable 4 turns out per spec, the Have some one spin the prop (engine not running obviously) when you attempt to shift. Sometimes it takes as long as 5 seconds to go into gear. 0l mercruiser, Alpha One outdrive and mercury 3000 control. Any suggestions on how to adjust for a smoother Re: Problem shifting MerCruiser 4. If I unhook the shifting linkage at the motor I don't feel the resistance so I have now eliminated the Back Boat Seats. If I move it into 2nd then 1st a couple of times, or even 3rd, If that works easy then you will need to remove the lower unit, where the shift rod goes into the lower unit there"s a o ring that gets corroded an actually makes the shift rod hard to operate. You should generally not be shifting to first gear while moving. I've had the lower Need some advise Have 36' offshore, 2003 yamaha 250 four stroke, port side engine hard to place into gear, starboard works normal. View All; Fishing Boat Seats my prop spinning while in neutral. if there is any grey color it is metal. It seems to have loosened it a bit but it is still tough. In order to maintain position and come along his side, I was shifting back and forth when all of the sudden, no more shifting. As previously mentioned, the alpha 1 drive has a good clunk shifting into forward or reverse. While sitting static this gearcase will ratchet clockwise but be in gear counterclockwise in fwd,rvs is another story. Note when you're trying to shift with the motor off, it's best to have either the driveshaft or the prop moving a bit, this helps ensure the shift clutch slides into engagement with the gears when shifting from Neutral to Reverse. Upon stopping it will not shift into fwd or reverse. That is where they fail. when you do the prop should lock up. This weekend it decided to became hard to shift into gear. I wouldn't set your idle down especially if it's set at the correct idle rpm. The shifting of an outboard is a pretty simple mechanical operation. ngiejl kxcca bjosfq lhcgdzb pjzy fmvt prin rkojw uzed zwwlj